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Jack London- 05-25-2008
The population explosion on Europe's doorstep
Interesting article from the Times. Worth reading. http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article3952775.ece

Philosopher's Stoned- 05-25-2008

Gradually and now at an ever accelerating rate, the cosy Ivory Towers concepts of the mentally defective architects of open EU state borders are changing. Except, of course, in Britain. It's still open door to all comers, with government not possessing a single real clue, about how many are here already, legally and illegaly and perhaps more importantly, quasi-legally.

Tony- 05-25-2008

A couple of comments that are worth noting: This could be a good time to start learning Arabic. How about converting to Islam before you are forced to pay Jiziya? Whether there are fewer WASPS and more Muslims in Europe doesn't concern me. Looks like he already has! Both of those comments spell doom for Europe and are part of the problem. Those people who think it amusing or trivial to have a muslim dominated planet clearly have no understanding of the muslim agenda... or "know many muslims who are moderate, reasonable people who pose no threat at all"... but Islam isn't controlled by "moderate, reasonable people...

Derius- 05-27-2008

The first thing that will change Europe radically is in about 20-30 years time, when the curent Welfare State sytem collapse across Europe. Islamic Immigration can only hit approximately 15% before this happens, as it is, contrary to our Governments belief, a net drain on the economy, and not a gain. Therefore, for Europe, predictions about 2050, based on how events are now are not accurate. In 2030-40, there will be minimal welfare benefits payable, or alternatively, be very select on how they are paid out and to whom. There will also be, for a time, widespread civil unrest. Both of these factors will slow down immigration to Europe, as other parts of the world will become more attractive. The type of Government will also be vastly different from what we have now, just as the type of Government we have now is vastly different in outlook than it was about 50 years ago. The BNP, or in fact any nationalistic party will have a chance to gain power. They probably won't get voted in Democratically, but when social order collapses, they won't need to be.

Jack London- 05-28-2008

Watch the social order collapsing here. http://www.civilliberty.org.uk/newsdetail.php?newsid=387 It was taken around the time of the last general election (2005), I think. The black bloke spouting off is the one recently sent down for terrorist activities. He also was the one who famously heckled the (ex-communist) Home Secretary, John Reid. Note how the coppers back off and are quickly outnumbered. Now can you imagine if it was a group of white demonstrators who were behaving so aggressively? Do you think the police would have backed off so quickly?

Percy- 05-28-2008

Actually Jack, I seem to remember the police backing off very quickly the other week in Manchester when the Glasgow Rangers fans decided to go walkabout... The police are very brave when they can taser an individual or shoot people many times but they clearly don't like mobs.

Jack London- 05-28-2008

Good point 'Sir' P, but how many islamics were involved in that fracas in London compared to the numbers running riot in Manchester? Moreover, I said "white demonstrators" as opposed to football hooligans, who are mainly white, since they are a different kettle of fish altogether.

Percy- 05-28-2008

I know the Poll Tax riots were many years ago now but I remember the police getting a lot of stick for allowing the rioters free reign - and most of them were white, as I recall.

Jack London- 05-28-2008

Again, big numbers, but I take your point.

Percy- 05-28-2008

"Class War" events in London too...

Tony- 05-28-2008

And Grunwick...

Percy- 05-28-2008

Be fair - whether we like the demonstrators or not (...they made my skin crawl) what could so few police have done?

Jack London- 05-29-2008

How about arresting that big black bloke for causing 'alarm, harrassment and distress' under the Public Order Act. Now, if it had been you or me shouting those things.......

Tony- 05-29-2008

We would have been arrested instantly. He declares that they "have our own way of life" proving that Islam has no place whatsoever in Britain. The mob would be at home in Karachi or Tehran... let them all go there... NOW!

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